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From: Winslow Yerxa
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 18:10:48 -0500
Subject: 3rd position minor thirteenth chord?

Neal Walker quizzes:

Then I came across a passage from a blues harmonica essay in the All
Music Guide to the Blues. It reads as follows: "The hallmark of third
position is a very unusual and jazzy minor thirteenth chord with added
eleventh that is produced when the holes are drawn."

Sorry, just another example of the ignorance that gets an audience in the
AMG (it seems like every time I pick up this self-importnat tome I read
something ignorant or inaccurate).

The draw chord in a C chromatic is D-F-A-B, repeated in each octave. The
root note of third position on a C harp is D.

The D-F-A-B chord is a minor triad (D-F-A) with an added major sixth (B).
It's a haunting, spooky chord, to be sure (and one I dearly love). This
chord is known as a minor 6th chord.

To create a minor 13th chord we'd need the following notes:

D(1) F(minor 3rd) A(5th) C(7th) E(9th) G(11th) Bb(minor 13th).

I don't see this chord anywhere in the chromatic tuning. True, we have draw
D-F-A for the minor triad, and blow C-E-G for the 7-9-11 part of the
chord (meaning you could created the impression of a minor 11th chord by
alternating these two groups, either as chords or as arpeggios), but the Bb
(the minor 13th) doesn't combine in a chord with either of these.

Now, the B-D-F draw combination (availalbe on both diatonic and chromatic
C-harps) constitute the 9-11-minor 13 portion of an A m13 chord. But that's
4th position, not 3rd.

Winslow